All Discussions Tagged ', reversal, recovery, ' - Occupy Cafe2024-03-29T15:02:13Zhttp://www.occupycafe.org/forum/topic/listForTag?groupUrl=occupy-2-0-inner-transformation-and-outer-systems&tag=%2C+reversal%2C+recovery%2C+&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLet's Get the Problem Definition Right.tag:www.occupycafe.org,2011-12-02:6451976:Topic:150202011-12-02T15:30:14.329ZDavid Eggletonhttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/DavidEggleton
<p>"The systems we seek to transform are held in place by something vast and powerful below our awareness, our own individual and collective subconscious.</p>
<p>Take, for example, the current failed economic system which disregards the value of the majority of its members. To what degree does that failed system reflect a society of individuals that bases their internal value on the goods and devices (i.e.-credit) in which it is now entrapped?"</p>
<p>That's from the group…</p>
<p>"The systems we seek to transform are held in place by something vast and powerful below our awareness, our own individual and collective subconscious.</p>
<p>Take, for example, the current failed economic system which disregards the value of the majority of its members. To what degree does that failed system reflect a society of individuals that bases their internal value on the goods and devices (i.e.-credit) in which it is now entrapped?"</p>
<p>That's from the group description/orientation. It does not define the problem well enough. Here's more. Will you add?</p>
<p>The situation is worse, and much older, than suggested! Reduction of human beings to things began about four hundred years ago, far ahead of the post WW1 emergence of our failed economic system. Internal value was flushed out and away. <em>Internal </em>became irrelevant, except as a hole to be filled, a center of appetites awaiting satiation.*</p>
<p>The failed economic system, increasingly disinterested in the well-being of humans, is another product of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductionism" target="_blank">reductionism</a>, brought into being by a sad whole system of people already diminished. Goods and devices are substitutes for being and becoming, which are more satisfying and health-maintaining. They fill the hole; lifeless things replace living things. Corporate logos are better known than birds, plants and watershed divides. Now we (overall) are the living dead and the planet is coming along.</p>
<p>Reductionism must be demoted and its process countered. The reversal recommended in <em>occupy yourself</em> very nicely overlaps Adbusters' pre-OWS inspirational "No more dead time!" All are called to life, to be and become. Our great potential is to recover wholeness, rediscover human scale and finally become <em>nature working</em>.**</p>
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<p>* A remarkable assortment of deviants and dreamers who were producers found a sort of recovery in emigration to the <em>New World</em> and managed to institutionalize otherwise fading principles (recall what happened to <em>all men are created equal</em> in less than ten years) in the document that became the Constitution of the United States.</p>
<p>** "We are nature working" has been attributed to <a href="http://www.regenerativedesign.org/pennybio" target="_blank">Penny Livingston-Stark</a>.</p>