Oakland etc. - Occupy Cafe2024-03-28T10:23:54Zhttp://www.occupycafe.org/forum/topics/oakland-etc?commentId=6451976%3AComment%3A3151&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI feel that the key question…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2011-10-28:6451976:Comment:39042011-10-28T04:07:08.470Zoccupynonviolencehttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/occupynonviolence
<p>I feel that the key question is how prepared are we to practice principled nonviolence in the face of any amount of violence? To read a document specifically prepared for the occupy Wall Street protesters by <a href="http://www.mettacenter.org" target="_blank">www.mettacenter.org</a>, a nonviolence education network, go to: <a href="http://www.mettacenter.org/mc/projects/consultation/october_2011">http://www.mettacenter.org/mc/projects/consultation/october_2011</a></p>
<p>I feel that the key question is how prepared are we to practice principled nonviolence in the face of any amount of violence? To read a document specifically prepared for the occupy Wall Street protesters by <a href="http://www.mettacenter.org" target="_blank">www.mettacenter.org</a>, a nonviolence education network, go to: <a href="http://www.mettacenter.org/mc/projects/consultation/october_2011">http://www.mettacenter.org/mc/projects/consultation/october_2011</a></p> Yes, I read that last night t…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2011-10-27:6451976:Comment:35052011-10-27T21:46:27.375ZOccupy Cafe Stewardshttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/21u3twzbb9qcp
<p>Yes, I read that last night too. </p>
<p>"<em>Protest all you want, but for the love of God don't camp. Who knew?" </em></p>
<p>LMAO!!! </p>
<p>Yes, I read that last night too. </p>
<p>"<em>Protest all you want, but for the love of God don't camp. Who knew?" </em></p>
<p>LMAO!!! </p> Yes. We learned this lesson i…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2011-10-27:6451976:Comment:33152011-10-27T19:46:38.792ZHelen Robertshttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/HelenRoberts
<p>Yes. We learned this lesson in 1968 in Lincoln Park in Chicago. Thank you, Gary, for stating the situation so clearly. Viva Oakland!</p>
<p>Yes. We learned this lesson in 1968 in Lincoln Park in Chicago. Thank you, Gary, for stating the situation so clearly. Viva Oakland!</p> Welcome to Syria By the Bay
C…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2011-10-27:6451976:Comment:31512011-10-27T19:07:18.314ZGary Horvitzhttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/GaryHorvitz
<p><strong>Welcome to Syria By the Bay</strong></p>
<p>Comments by <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/user/Hunter" target="_blank">Hunter</a> last night on DK</p>
<blockquote><p><em><b>T</b>he Occupy Wall Street movement apparently has inadvertently (or, at this point, intentionally?) managed to stumble upon the one thing that is absolutely most intolerable to local government officials throughout the nation: protest all you want, but for the love of God don't camp. Who knew? For decades…</em></p>
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<p><strong>Welcome to Syria By the Bay</strong></p>
<p>Comments by <a target="_blank" href="http://www.dailykos.com/user/Hunter">Hunter</a> last night on DK</p>
<blockquote><p><em><b>T</b>he Occupy Wall Street movement apparently has inadvertently (or, at this point, intentionally?) managed to stumble upon the one thing that is absolutely most intolerable to local government officials throughout the nation: protest all you want, but for the love of God don't camp. Who knew? For decades protesters have been holding up signs, marching down streets, singing songs, making giant puppets or what-have-you, but they never figured out that if they really wanted attention, all they had to do was sit their ass down on a sleeping bag and all the hellfire of the American political and law enforcement infrastructure would come down upon their heads.</em></p>
<p><em>It demonstrates, I think, just how viscerally uncomfortable governments are with any protest that is seen as seriously threatening to the status quo. As long as the protest is transient—that is, it goes away the next day, leaving nothing of itself behind but some full trash cans and discarded signs—it is fine. As long as it makes demands that are either decently in line with the status quo or so not in line with the status quo that they have zero chance of altering a political outcome, it's also fine. But staying overnight somewhere suggests a commitment to your cause that truly, truly unnerves politicians. It implies that you might still be there tomorrow, and the next day, and that is when the boundaries of free speech seem to find themselves well and truly tested.</em></p>
</blockquote> Honestly the idea that Occupy…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2011-10-27:6451976:Comment:34012011-10-27T16:34:43.652ZJeremy Fergusonhttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/JeremyFerguson
<p>Honestly the idea that Occupy should even have permits or permission is beside the point. The overpermitization of public property is one of the issues at hand... Occupy Asheville's statement is here.. <a href="http://www.mountainx.com/article/36817/Occupy-Asheville-Public-space-belongs-to-the-public">http://www.mountainx.com/article/36817/Occupy-Asheville-Public-space-belongs-to-the-public</a></p>
<p>Honestly the idea that Occupy should even have permits or permission is beside the point. The overpermitization of public property is one of the issues at hand... Occupy Asheville's statement is here.. <a href="http://www.mountainx.com/article/36817/Occupy-Asheville-Public-space-belongs-to-the-public">http://www.mountainx.com/article/36817/Occupy-Asheville-Public-space-belongs-to-the-public</a></p> Ah--yes I just heard the same…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2011-10-27:6451976:Comment:33072011-10-27T16:13:12.962ZOccupy Cafe Stewardshttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/21u3twzbb9qcp
<p>Ah--yes I just heard the same from Jim Barton. So you guys are "squatters" again. Jim seems to think that's OK though.</p>
<p>Ah--yes I just heard the same from Jim Barton. So you guys are "squatters" again. Jim seems to think that's OK though.</p> It will be excellent to hear…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2011-10-27:6451976:Comment:31382011-10-27T15:48:24.475ZAerin Dunfordhttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/AerinDunford
<p>It will be excellent to hear directly from soneone who was actually at the scene in Oakland and can share with us what went down. It is so hard to get a real sense from photos, articles and videos (though I get the gist!).</p>
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<p>It will be excellent to hear directly from soneone who was actually at the scene in Oakland and can share with us what went down. It is so hard to get a real sense from photos, articles and videos (though I get the gist!).</p>
<p> </p> Asheville City Council gave t…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2011-10-27:6451976:Comment:31352011-10-27T15:12:37.317ZJeremy Fergusonhttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/JeremyFerguson
<p>Asheville City Council gave temporary permission and then when the topic came up again voted 6-1 against a longer occupation .. <a href="http://www.mountainx.com/article/36799/Council-refuses-to-let-Occupy-Asheville-camp-in-public-park-waives-fees" target="_blank">http://www.mountainx.com/article/36799/Council-refuses-to-let-Occupy-Asheville-camp-in-public-park-waives-fees</a></p>
<p>Asheville City Council gave temporary permission and then when the topic came up again voted 6-1 against a longer occupation .. <a href="http://www.mountainx.com/article/36799/Council-refuses-to-let-Occupy-Asheville-camp-in-public-park-waives-fees" target="_blank">http://www.mountainx.com/article/36799/Council-refuses-to-let-Occupy-Asheville-camp-in-public-park-waives-fees</a></p> We're planning to have one of…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2011-10-27:6451976:Comment:30762011-10-27T14:31:02.164ZBen Robertshttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/BenRoberts
<p>We're planning to have one of next Monday's conversation starters be someone who was part of Occupy Oakland and can provide a first hand account of the events there.</p>
<p>We're planning to have one of next Monday's conversation starters be someone who was part of Occupy Oakland and can provide a first hand account of the events there.</p> Asheville NC also got city pe…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2011-10-27:6451976:Comment:29902011-10-27T14:30:02.909ZBen Robertshttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/BenRoberts
<p>Asheville NC also got city permission (for now) to set up in a particular spot.</p>
<p>Asheville NC also got city permission (for now) to set up in a particular spot.</p>