The Happiness Initiative--Vital Conversation for the Week of 11/26 - Occupy Cafe2024-03-29T12:32:38Zhttp://www.occupycafe.org/forum/topics/the-happiness-initiative-vital-conversation-for-the-week-of-11-26?commentId=6451976%3AComment%3A35003&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThinking humbly about the str…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2012-11-28:6451976:Comment:356152012-11-28T16:13:04.736ZDyck Dewidhttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/DyckDewid
Thinking humbly about the strategy of helping the world become a place that serves everyone.<br />
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With the Connect Call yesterday it's making me think of tactics too. Perhaps this Happiness INdex appeals not only to the left brain functions of measurement and change. But, it also seems to engage the ego. This takes us in differing directions and for me makes things more confusing... not that its bad to be confused as that leads to something else with perhaps more clearness.<br />
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One scenario is that we…
Thinking humbly about the strategy of helping the world become a place that serves everyone.<br />
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With the Connect Call yesterday it's making me think of tactics too. Perhaps this Happiness INdex appeals not only to the left brain functions of measurement and change. But, it also seems to engage the ego. This takes us in differing directions and for me makes things more confusing... not that its bad to be confused as that leads to something else with perhaps more clearness.<br />
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One scenario is that we imply acceptance of a terribly broken system (by appealing to government to use the HI (Happiness INdex) and make changes, then re-measure. Yes, this may help some people but will it also hurt the effort to radically change our society? Another artifact is it would ostensibly appeal to the masses (ego) and could foretell engagement and participation in their destiny... But, being motivated by self interest would this really serve or interfere with the high purpose of "seeing that it is all about caring about others" which will bring about 'a world that serves all.'<br />
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ps, I sent a msg to admin about this format having changed appearance & function. Thanks for the follow up reso…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2012-11-27:6451976:Comment:354452012-11-27T16:39:33.067ZBen Robertshttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/BenRoberts
<p>Thanks for the follow up resources, Laura. Looking forward to exploring what might come next on this afternoon's Connect2012 Cafe Call.</p>
<p>It's great to see that a number of people took the time to complete the survey (something the rest of you <a href="http://happycounts.org/survey/GNH/occupycafe2012" target="_blank">can still do</a>, by the way!). I wonder what stands out for you in the data? I see that we're ahead of the averages in terms of community and time balance, but lag in…</p>
<p>Thanks for the follow up resources, Laura. Looking forward to exploring what might come next on this afternoon's Connect2012 Cafe Call.</p>
<p>It's great to see that a number of people took the time to complete the survey (something the rest of you <a href="http://happycounts.org/survey/GNH/occupycafe2012" target="_blank">can still do</a>, by the way!). I wonder what stands out for you in the data? I see that we're ahead of the averages in terms of community and time balance, but lag in neighborhood and physical health. Not sure how big a margin makes something statistically significant. Also wondering about looking at absolute levels of the data, rather than just the comparison to the national average. </p> A list of the domains is on…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2012-11-27:6451976:Comment:354422012-11-27T01:44:07.476Zlaura musikanskihttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/lauramusikanski
<p> A list of the <a href="http://www.happycounts.org/about/" target="_blank">domains i</a>s on this page (scroll down). Also, two suggested reads on happiness </p>
<div>If you want to read a book on happiness these are the two I suggest - one on individual happiness, the other on policy: </div>
<div><em>The How of Happiness</em> by Sonja Lyubomirsky - to learn more about your own psychological state and its impact on your happiness </div>
<div><em>Wellbeing for Public Policy</em> by Ed Deiner,…</div>
<p> A list of the <a href="http://www.happycounts.org/about/" target="_blank">domains i</a>s on this page (scroll down). Also, two suggested reads on happiness </p>
<div>If you want to read a book on happiness these are the two I suggest - one on individual happiness, the other on policy: </div>
<div><em>The How of Happiness</em> by Sonja Lyubomirsky - to learn more about your own psychological state and its impact on your happiness </div>
<div><em>Wellbeing for Public Policy</em> by Ed Deiner, John Heliwell et al - to learn more about your community and its impact on your happiness and wellbeing</div>
<div>A TON of resources: <a href="http://zacharydavidwalsh.com/" target="_blank">http://zacharydavidwalsh.com/</a></div>
<div>You can download the tool kit here <a href="http://www.happycounts.org/toolkits/" target="_blank">http://www.happycounts.org/toolkits/</a></div>
<div>And I am happy to issue anyone a unique code!</div> Thank you for the call today!…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2012-11-27:6451976:Comment:351652012-11-27T01:42:46.472Zlaura musikanskihttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/lauramusikanski
<p>Thank you for the call today! Here are the survey results for the 38 who took the survey</p>
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" width="338">
<colgroup><col width="145"></col><col width="27"></col><col width="77"></col><col width="89"></col></colgroup><tbody><tr><td class="xl28" height="13" width="145">occupy café sample size</td>
<td class="xl29" width="27">38</td>
<td class="xl30" width="77">National Average</td>
<td class="xl31" width="89">Occupy Cafe Sample…</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>Thank you for the call today! Here are the survey results for the 38 who took the survey</p>
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" width="338">
<colgroup><col width="145"></col><col width="27"></col><col width="77"></col><col width="89"></col></colgroup><tbody><tr><td height="13" class="xl28" width="145">occupy café sample size</td>
<td class="xl29" width="27">38</td>
<td class="xl30" width="77">National Average</td>
<td class="xl31" width="89">Occupy Cafe Sample</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Satisfaction with Life</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl26">77</td>
<td class="xl27">73</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Psychological Well-Being</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl26">76</td>
<td class="xl27">79</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Physical Health</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl26">71</td>
<td class="xl27">66</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Time Balance</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl26">60</td>
<td class="xl27">65</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Community</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl26">63</td>
<td class="xl27">72</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Social Support</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl26">76</td>
<td class="xl27">77</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Education, Arts & Culture</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl26">73</td>
<td class="xl27">69</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Neighborhood</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl26">78</td>
<td class="xl27">71</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Environment</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl26">76</td>
<td class="xl27">76</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Government</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl26">59</td>
<td class="xl27">56</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Material Well-Being</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl26">68</td>
<td class="xl27">62</td>
</tr>
<tr><td height="14" class="xl24">Work Experience</td>
<td class="xl25"> </td>
<td class="xl27">70</td>
<td class="xl27">66</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table> Or perhaps not, Dyck. Looks…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2012-11-26:6451976:Comment:349132012-11-26T14:00:46.174ZBen Robertshttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/BenRoberts
<p>Or perhaps not, Dyck. Looks like C.A. has left the Cafe, <em>and</em> deleted all his posts in the process. Wow. He must have spent hundreds of hours on this forum. Much as I often found his posts to be an irritant due to his frequently critical (and at times complaining) message, I feel sad that he is gone. The loss of all his writing feels even more sad, in a way. Like piece of the history of this place has been cut out, leaving a gaping hole. So many exchanges that will no longer…</p>
<p>Or perhaps not, Dyck. Looks like C.A. has left the Cafe, <em>and</em> deleted all his posts in the process. Wow. He must have spent hundreds of hours on this forum. Much as I often found his posts to be an irritant due to his frequently critical (and at times complaining) message, I feel sad that he is gone. The loss of all his writing feels even more sad, in a way. Like piece of the history of this place has been cut out, leaving a gaping hole. So many exchanges that will no longer make sense. <em> </em></p>
<p><em>[As an aside, this is a reminder to check into the options we have for archiving and also to see if this automatically happens every time someone leaves or if it is an option they need to choose--I do know that once they are deleted, they can't be restored without an archive that we currently do not maintain].</em></p> I feel your unhappiness, Brad…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2012-11-25:6451976:Comment:350032012-11-25T14:47:55.655ZDyck Dewidhttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/DyckDewid
<p>I feel your unhappiness, Bradfield. </p>
<p>... wish you could taste of my happiness for a day. </p>
<p>Perhaps we are sharing something, after all.</p>
<p>I feel your unhappiness, Bradfield. </p>
<p>... wish you could taste of my happiness for a day. </p>
<p>Perhaps we are sharing something, after all.</p> ...this makes me happy.tag:www.occupycafe.org,2012-11-25:6451976:Comment:348532012-11-25T03:09:49.253ZDyck Dewidhttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/DyckDewid
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1503544331?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1503544331?profile=original" width="403"/></a>...this makes me happy.</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1503544331?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1503544331?profile=original" width="403"/></a>...this makes me happy.</p> This was an interesting test/…tag:www.occupycafe.org,2012-11-21:6451976:Comment:346812012-11-21T03:55:43.884ZDyck Dewidhttp://www.occupycafe.org/profile/DyckDewid
<p style="text-align: left;">This was an interesting test/survey. It seems pretty well done to get some kind of standardized index. I would find it most interesting to correlate reasons for unhappiness to see if I could substantiate my crackpot theory. That is, we want 'things' that we think will make us happy (hence try to acquire them). Anything that interferes with getting what we want is bad, and that which enables it is good. This applies in re-naming things to positive & negative…</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This was an interesting test/survey. It seems pretty well done to get some kind of standardized index. I would find it most interesting to correlate reasons for unhappiness to see if I could substantiate my crackpot theory. That is, we want 'things' that we think will make us happy (hence try to acquire them). Anything that interferes with getting what we want is bad, and that which enables it is good. This applies in re-naming things to positive & negative too. And it works in reverse also... to avoid pain or discomfort.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In fact, it may all boil down to pain and pleasure... perceiving our life task is to duplicate pleasure and avoid pain (sounds pretty mechanical, no?). Is happiness simply a sense of pleasure with the absence of pain?</p>
<p>By the phrasing of many questions I can infer, how at least the test creators see, people's values, money habits, employment, etc.. For example a scale implies one spends their disposable money <em>only</em> on either material objects or experiential activities. That tells me they think all people do this... or else their question is flawed.</p>
<p>There are also judgements strewn here and there in Q/A choices, using words like "Good" and "Positive" and "Optimistic." This implies an assumption that we (public) act, respond, and think in terms of arbitrary judgements of what is good or bad.</p>
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