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Janos Abel commented on Occupy Cafe Stewards's page Feedback
"Good to see this site waking up!"
Oct 24
Janos Abel commented on Janos Abel's blog post Occupying should be just the first step
"Ben, Just seen this two year old message from you. Not sure how I fell out of this wagon, but good to be back. The issue is still exercising me a lot. Fortunately opportunities still abound for moving forward. In my opinion it is a question of…"
Oct 24
Janos Abel commented on Occupy Cafe Stewards's page Feedback
"The direct link to the resilience report does not work (a space is included at the end). This should work: http://www.postcarbon.org/publications/weaving-crne/"
Oct 24
Janos Abel commented on Occupy Cafe Stewards's page Feedback
"Hello Ben, Thanks for getting back to me. I would like to take part in a "reunion". Take stock of where we are; do a "post mortem" on where we have been; think about where we should be going as "activists" (thinking,…"
Oct 24
Janos Abel gave a gift to Henk Luth
Oct 13
Janos Abel commented on Occupy Cafe Stewards's page Feedback
"Is this web site still functioning?"
Oct 12
Janos Abel replied to Ben Roberts's discussion A Time for Courage: theme for the week of Jan 6, 2013
"Hello Dyck, In the context of economics, employment, social security, wealth distribution, etc., the accuser---as any individual or group of individuals---can be quite real. So can the accused---the group of policy makers---be real, since the…"
Mar 31, 2013
Janos Abel replied to Ben Roberts's discussion A Time for Courage: theme for the week of Jan 6, 2013
"Courage can mean that we dare to contemplate doing what is necessary no only what seems possible or interesting. My suggestion of what is necessary, by the principle of First Things First, is to challenge the established system's unspoken rule…"
Mar 31, 2013
Janos Abel replied to David Eggleton's discussion Everyone Invests in the group Alternative Economy
"We probably mean different things by "stepping outside". I have been interested community experiments for decades but it seems to me that most of the relevant resources---relevant to physical sufficiency---are enclosed by the…"
May 8, 2012
Janos Abel gave a gift to Deborah Hart Yemm
May 5, 2012
Ben Roberts commented on Janos Abel's blog post Occupying should be just the first step
"The "expertise" issue (does it have another name, perhaps?) is something that I have often noted as well. Our lack of trust in not only experts but also the media has left us without easily accesssible common ground on many fronts. Smor…"
May 1, 2012
Janos Abel replied to David Eggleton's discussion Everyone Invests in the group Alternative Economy
"Although ecology is not the main lens through which I view economics, it is obvious to me that in nature there is no waste. Economists could study "how nature does it" to produce theoretical models that reflect reality rather than the…"
Apr 30, 2012
Janos Abel posted a blog post

Occupying should be just the first step

Occupying is a means to achieve certain ends. Agreeing what these ends are is the second step. Developing strategies for achieving the ends is the third step.In my view (from Occupylsx) physical occupation is getting to be a drag on moving forward towards the objectives. The Finsbury Square camp, for example is in a bit of a sorry state physically (ok, partly due to the wet weather). The economics work group is attempting to hold its twice a week meetings on site but even a suitable spot is…See More
Apr 30, 2012
Janos Abel replied to David Eggleton's discussion Everyone Invests in the group Alternative Economy
"Good framework for thinking on economic fundamentals. The purpose of production is consumption. Without buyers (providing demand), a product would have no value. Therefore any new style productive enterprise (especially co-ops and worker owneds)…"
Apr 28, 2012
Janos Abel replied to David Eggleton's discussion Everyone Invests in the group Alternative Economy
"Good ideas, but too far removed from concerns about keeping the body alive. The bottom line question regarding economics from an individual point of view is, "to whom am I froced to sell the time of my life, in order to acquire the means (food,…"
Apr 28, 2012
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Apr 28, 2012

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Occupying should be just the first step

Posted on April 30, 2012 at 7:20am 2 Comments

Occupying is a means to achieve certain ends. Agreeing what these ends are is the second step. Developing strategies for achieving the ends is the third step.

In my view (from Occupylsx) physical occupation is getting to be a drag on moving forward towards the objectives. The Finsbury Square camp, for example is in a bit of a sorry state physically (ok, partly due to the wet weather). The economics work group is attempting to hold its twice a week meetings on site but even a suitable…

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Mitchell L Gold commented on Occupy Cafe Stewards's page Feedback
"inventory is like taking stock - what resources are committed to the movement - in people, time, cars, technology, plane flights? ideas that are working - where are they from an implementation point of view?  for example - the ISO 26000 is a…"
Nov 3
Ben Roberts commented on Occupy Cafe Stewards's page Feedback
"Thanks for catching that in the link, Janos. Not sure what you mean, Mitch. Inventory as in business accounting? Resources as in...?"
Nov 3
Janos Abel commented on Occupy Cafe Stewards's page Feedback
"Good to see this site waking up!"
Oct 24
Janos Abel commented on Janos Abel's blog post Occupying should be just the first step
"Ben, Just seen this two year old message from you. Not sure how I fell out of this wagon, but good to be back. The issue is still exercising me a lot. Fortunately opportunities still abound for moving forward. In my opinion it is a question of…"
Oct 24

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