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Permalink Reply by Jack Strasburg on December 24, 2011 at 8:20pm

Breakout session  Jane,  Eric,  Jack (note taker

Eric Need to try to step back and not allow our personal interests to get in the way. Also, more familiar with working in Old Paradigm but need to avoid letting that dominate how we work in the New Paradigm.

Jane We often point our fingers at others and we need to to focus more on “What I need to change about myself.”

Jack Occupy has given some long time activists who are almost ready to give up at least a spark of hope.

Jane Not knowing what it is, is part of emergence. Fear is a major influence. Fear is used as way to control. Need to shift from fear to light and life.

Eric Thinking we know but maybe not knowing is part of paradigm shift and may help us find a new way.

Jack Need to act now, and keep learning along the way.

Eric We need to look at ways we do things. Proceed from a different set of questions. Not always think that “Iam right”.

Jane Let go of duality as the way of things. Not either or but Both And.

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Permalink Reply by Gael Bage on December 26, 2011 at 8:22pm

Perhaps being our own change while thinking inclusively and open to others offers up something that might inspire others to contribute their own unique version that will also enrich the whole community. Living and breathing lives with all their vulnerabilities and unique talents could offer a diversity of leadership to suit different situations this would work where there was respect and acceptance within a group. Words alone are not enough..

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Permalink Reply by NDT on January 2, 2012 at 3:55pm

@Jitenda: Problems such as assaults, breaches of the peace, etc are not resolved by democratic principles, but by law. Conflict also exists within the law itself between the principles of common law and civil law. Unless the conflict of law is understood and addressed, ordinary conflicts between individuals cannot be meaningfully resolved & anarchy becomes an issue. Common law is based on the law of nature, but civil law is based on will-to-power.

I suggest that in future gatherings a mandate is obtained from the people to hold court of common law jurisdiction over the local area. Common law judicature consists (very roughly) of the principles of ethics, due process, impartiality in judgment, findings of fact resting in the hands of the people, and the application of reason in establishing the truth. There should also be individuals present during court who understand the common law and can make relevant arguments in the interests of justice, and a record of proceeedings should be kept.

The legitimacy of such a mandate may well be contested by local law enforcement agencies. In my opinion it would be wise to enter into a diplomatic exchange prior to obtaining a mandate, with the argument that for civil proceedings to be lawful, consent must be obtained from the affected parties, with that consent being given implicitly by the act of pleading.

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