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Permalink Reply by David Eggleton on April 10, 2012 at 11:58pm

If some focus on COMMON-interest in combination with SELF-interest and it looks good enough to inspire others to do the same, the shift should be inexorable.  Demonstration, not prescription.

Interdependence draws in all the other beings, too, right?

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Permalink Reply by Bill Gellermann on April 14, 2012 at 2:15pm

As I understand "INTERdepence" it is a choice we make -- each of us and all of us.  As of now, my impression is that many of us (maybe most of us) are focussed primarily, if not solely, on INdependence and that leads us to focus only on SELF- interest (e.g. most of the 1%, though not all, e.g. the Gates).  The U.S. is founded on a "Declaration of Independence" with no recognition of INTERdependence.  

I share the view that "Interdependence draws in all the other beings."  But that depends on how each of us conceives what "interdependence" means to us.  My impression is that "we the people" have a long way to go in order to expand our view of our "independence" to encompass "interdepence on a scale that draws in all the other beings."

It is conceiveable to me that our "dialogue and deliberation" could explore this view more -- and, by doing so, bring that broader view into being.  [How can we call this to the attention of our "D &D community"?

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Permalink Reply by David Eggleton on April 15, 2012 at 8:18am

Instead of a long way to go, I believe a more deliberate interdependence with plants and/or animals will to some, for a wide variety of reasons, appear a more attractive first step.  Many people start to grow their own food before they start to build community.

I believe choices of steps are key to a successful shift, which is why my answer to your original how question discouraged prescription.

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