"KMO, I feel like I didn't understand or handle your sharing well at all...and am truly interested in hearing more. Although I clearly feel that any example of violence is an incorrect solution, I don't know what I'd actually do if I…"
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KMO posted a blog postIn Defense of Flogging
On the Occupy for Prisoners call on Monday, I said that a ten year prison sentence would cost me the childhoods of my two sons, as they would be adults by the time I was released. Because of his oppostion to any kind of violence, Patrick insisted that he would do the ten years rather than take the lash. That's his perogative, but givenen the choice between a ten year prison sentence which would prevent me from being a presence in the lives of my children or 10 lashes, I would take the lashes…See More
Fern Moncrief commented on KMO's blog post Occupy Slogans Too Simplistic?"ok ,so I am just going to jump in here. I have been otherwise occupied (no pun intended) and have lost a grip on my train of thought here. I also appreciate everyone's input. I am finding C.A.'s input a little hard to follow. I…"
Jonathan Feldman commented on KMO's blog post Occupy Slogans Too Simplistic?"There are other slogans and ideas. It's just a matter of organizing around them. "
"Hi Fern. Here's my answer to your question. If it seems incomplete or convoluted, please ask me to improve it."
Fern Moncrief commented on KMO's blog post Occupy Slogans Too Simplistic?"I am grateful that this conversation is here. It seems to me that we need to question everything we undertake; does it fit a new evolutionary model? Because if it doesn't we are at great risk of just playing into the matrix already in place.…"
Jitendra Darling commented on KMO's blog post Occupy Slogans Too Simplistic?"I agree wholeheartedly lemme. Invert the equation. Recalibrate present admiralty/maritime courts to uphold Law of the Land. Society grounded in Common Law spawns an economy grounded in human value. Human dignity…"
lemme howdt commented on KMO's blog post Occupy Slogans Too Simplistic?"I see my comment should have been placed here - I question the assumption that we should base society on economics. The whole system turns into a dog-eat-dog battle to the lowest common denominator. Perhaps the new society should be…"
""In reality, empires use the differential distribution of imperial benefits and burdens to keep everyone working to support the imperial system that supports them and to point their criticism not at the imperial system, but at players and…"
Jitendra Darling commented on KMO's blog post Occupy Slogans Too Simplistic?"Cogent article by JMG. The 99% slogan has been a great attention getter and has had an impact on the global narrative, but it's function ceases at being symbolic.
In fact, I would go so far as to say it is in some real ways…"
""'We are the 99 percent'... as a conceptual tool or as a base upon which to build a more elaborate mental framework, is it really useful?"
I think not. It is, indeed, simplistic. It seems to presume widespread…"
KMO posted a blog postOccupy Slogans Too Simplistic?
I just read a very thoughtful and nuanced blog post by John Michael Greer in which he criticizes (in passing) the rhetoric of Occupy Wallstreet. http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2012/02/structure-of-empires.htmlAccording to JMG, the simplistic model of an empire that consists of a one percent elite who prey upon a ninety nine percent class of the oppressed has no referent in reality. In reality, empires…See More
KMO replied to Occupy Cafe Stewards's discussion 3/5 Vital Conversation: The Challenge of Divergent Worldviews"I'm not attached to the phrase "self-evident truth." I'd rather replace it than defend it if you have qualms with it. It is not obvious to me that we have reached the necessary critical mass for a dramatic cultural shift just…"
KMO replied to Occupy Cafe Stewards's discussion 3/5 Vital Conversation: The Challenge of Divergent Worldviews"I'd like to hear more about this idea. I'm open to the idea that "the mass by far exceeds critical," but that doesn't appear to me to be a self-evident truth. What is the elephant in the room. What is the taboo that prevents…"
KMO replied to Jitendra Darling's discussion Occupy Heart 3/2: Occupy Inner Authority"That was 57 weeks and 57 conversations ago. Gary's a smart guy, and he's worth listening to, but I'd have to re-listen to the episode myself to give you anything more specific than what's in the synopsis.
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KMO replied to Occupy Cafe Stewards's discussion 3/5 Vital Conversation: The Challenge of Divergent Worldviews"For more on what Naomi Kein is talking about in the blockquote above, I would recommend that folks listen to this talk by Chris Mooney: http://ww.archive.org/details/ESMooney .
I have a conflicting commitment and will not be able to…"
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- How would you characterize your connection to the Occupy movement?
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- List of on-the-ground Occupy sites where you participate, if any
- In 2011 I participated in Occupy events in NYC and visited the Occupy encampment in Washington DC. I have recently moved from the Farm, a former hippie commune in Summertown, Tennessee to Brooklyn.
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- I followed Jitendra's profile link from the comment section to Rob Hopkins' review of the movie Thrive.
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- I am the host of the C-Realm Podcast, and I reported on the Occupy movement from Zucotti Park last year.
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In Defense of Flogging
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 3:31pm 1 Comment 0 Likes
On the Occupy for Prisoners call on Monday, I said that a ten year prison sentence would cost me the childhoods of my two sons, as they would be adults by the time I was released. Because of his oppostion to any kind of violence, Patrick insisted that he would do the ten years rather than take the lash. That's his perogative, but givenen the choice between a ten year prison sentence which would prevent me from being a presence in the lives of my children or 10 lashes, I would take the lashes…
Continue Occupy Slogans Too Simplistic?
Posted on March 9, 2012 at 11:24pm 9 Comments 1 Like
I just read a very thoughtful and nuanced blog post by John Michael Greer in which he criticizes (in passing) the rhetoric of Occupy Wallstreet.
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2012/02/structure-of-empires.html
According to JMG, the simplistic model of an empire that consists of a one percent elite who prey upon a ninety nine percent class of the oppressed has no referent in reality.…
Continue C-Realm Podcast 299: Consciousness Cafe with Jitendra Darling
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:30pm 4 Comments 0 Likes
Comment Wall (3 comments)
- At 9:27am on March 3, 2012,
Hope Martin said… Hey KMO,
Just curious are we talking "the farm" -- I'm studying to become a midwife :)
So nice to get intouch, Let me know if you need any info when you make your way to Brooklyn -- it's a great city!
*Hope
- At 3:44pm on February 27, 2012, Jitendra Darling said…
Hi KMO,
Deep appreciation for your presence and perspective on our calls. Let's arrange a Skype connection. Perhaps later this week.
Peace ~
Jitendra
- At 2:51pm on February 5, 2012, Jitendra Darling said…
Welcome KMO!
Would you be interested in being a conversation starter for one of our Monday Vital Conversation calls?
Peace ~
Jitendra
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David Grabowski posted a blog postWHEN EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION IS A DISTORTION .
Little Jimmy was crying to his mommy that his brother hit him he is a mean person to him. His brother never got the chance to present his and since he was older he was expected to know better. You might say that it was easy to demonize the old brother because the parents had established an acceptable pattern of conclusions based on past behavior.. How easy is it for the person who screams the loudest to be effective in convincing people to her/his side of the story. If it sounds…See More
Ben Roberts replied to Ben Roberts's discussion Sustainability at a Crossroads"I love your question and reflection on it Dyck:
And by the way, we are trying to broaden the "sustainability" conversation beyond the physical environment, to include our communities, e.g. social justice and economics, and also our inner…"
Dyck Dewid replied to Ben Roberts's discussion Sustainability at a Crossroads"I guess I assume the meaning here of sustainability is limited to how humans deal with our physical environment. Yet 'figuring out' the what and how of sustainability is a personal journey that for me, doesn't exclude…"
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